Nawrocks eclipse Kaczyński? We asked in the PiS. "The Hall besides had a good start"

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President Karol Nawrocki dominated the right. If you number all references to him in the media, all his decisions, vetoes and storms and loud words, he would win against Jarosław Kaczyński in the runoffs. It is known that the PiS is in euphoria after his win, but how do they view this dominance today? How does the president feel about her, who – how do you get the impression – found himself in the shadows recently? This is how the politicians of the Law and Justice organization react.


We are all looking at the Presidential Palace today. We see Karol Nawrocki waving at people, going out to them and giving autographs. We hear how he would like to set up a government in corners, change the constitution and increase the function of the president in Poland.

It took little than a period to feel like the father of a nation and even more aspirations. fresh Year's Eve for a fewer weeks, like she's disappeared from public space.

In fact, Jarosław Kaczyński travels Poland and does the same rhetoric as usual. Last time he attacked Waldemar Lurk. In the Seym, Roman Giertych called "the main sadist". At the Smolensk monthly magazine about political opponents he said "trash".

But it's like he's in the shadow of Nawrocki. After fresh events, the average Kowalski may even have thought that the Presidential Palace was beginning to dominate Novgorod. And that's just the beginning of the presidency.

- In the shadows? If the PiS politician had gone into space now, Jarosław Kaczyński would besides be in the shadows. He is the largest figure of Polish politics in fresh decades. I think that together with the president we will act for the sake of Poland – 1 of the politicians of PiS responds.

We're checking how Nawrock's dominance is seen in the Law and Justice. Are there 2 centres of right-wing power or one? We are expected to surprise each other, besides from Jarosław Kaczyński.

"Simon Hollow besides had a good start," "It has its 5 minutes"


“Charles Nawrocki has his 5 minutes,” says 1 politician. It estimates that from their position they will benefit from this in the short term.

– What the president does is very good for our environment. But the question is, what is his purpose? Simon Holovnia besides had a good start. Only erstwhile the bar hangs advanced can it be hard to lift it later. Then you can be a small prisoner of your success. It is the function of the President's Chancellery to play in a good way technically – he believes.

– This is his time. You gotta accept that. As president, he has a function to play, not us. We will not compare the president of the organization to the president. president Jarosław is simply a well-deserved leader. But the president is the president – another politician is judging.

So far, the president is showing strength. And let us remind – the voices about that Citizen Nawrocki, who is not a associate of the Law and Justice, after the election of the president may break off the leash, had not previously been missing.

– He's very ambitious, and I don't see him as a puppet. I see him alternatively as a guest who wants to replace Kaczyński as the father of the benefactor of the Polish right. If I were Kaczyński, I'd be full of fear that he might have created a monster to eat it. And I would be careful – he told us right after winning Nawrocki his old friend from Gdańsk. He even said that if Kaczyński was there, he wouldn't sleep peacefully.

"It's not real at all," "It's a long way"


In the Law and Justice Department, they respond very naturally, although we ask purely hypothetically.

– There is large joy and satisfaction that our president is here. But I can't imagine a situation where the party's president is constantly successful in pointing out his successor. This is completely unrealistic – the policy of PiS responds.

– So far, there's 5 years of presidency. Then another 5 years of presidency. And then we'll figure out who Charles Nawrocki might be. Or our prime minister? Or the UN Secretary-General? present there is no question at all – he throws.

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Another politician: – It is hard to foretell today, it is inactive a long way. Only this presidency will find whether it will make a large politician or not. It is known that his actions are for the second round. For now, whoever I'm not talking to, everyone likes that he's working, taking the level and chasing the government to work.

"The president cannot be replaced," "his function is inactive gigantic"


The president is applauding. The fact that Kaczyński is happy with his choice, does not even request to be mentioned. During his visits to Poland, he thanks voters for this. – He is incredibly strong – he spoke about Nawrock recently.

– The CEO is just happy. He's smiling, he's chilling, he's kidding. No occupation bothers him. He drives now rested in Poland, and he likes it very much. He seems to be very pleased. As if there were no president, it was Jarosław Kaczyński's individual idea. He won these elections – says 1 of the politicians of the Law and Justice.



But who predicted this would be the beginning of the presidency?


W Podcast State Exceptional Kamil Dziubka asked the writer Newsweek: – Can Jarosław Kaczyński feel jealous of Karol Nawrocki?

Jacek Gądek replied that Kaczyński – thanks to him himself – grew a fresh star on the right. – president Karol Nawrocki, who has gigantic aspirations in terms of power. He's very offensive. But on Novgorod alone, this is perceived positively. The strategical goal is shared, to win the right in 2027. It takes an offensive president to do that. What happens next is simply a mystery – he said.

He besides stated that due to the biology and growth of hard right-wing moods it seems that Kaczyński "will become a character that moves to history". Karol Nawrocki will fill this space. – As such, the fresh father of the Polish right - he said.

In the Law and Justice, they do not accept specified a vision. The function of the President, as we hear, is undeniable. There's no discussion here.

– The CEO cannot be replaced. How could Charles Nawrocki replace him? He has a function that Jarosław Kaczyński invented for him – the politician of the Law and Justice organization is going down.



MEP Jacek Ozoba reacts: – The function of the president is irreplaceable. Jarosław Kaczyński is the leader of the PiS and it has a different character. The executive authority is president Karol Nawrocki and the PiS camp will actively support him. Without the chairman, it's impossible.

He points out that Parliament is now on a hiatus. So by force, the voice from Novgorod is not so loud. And the circumstances are conducive to the fact that the president's function is more medial.

– As usual, the president is very active and many things with his participation will surprise us positively. His function is inactive gigantic. The President's moves are more noticeable and interesting today, but that doesn't mean the president is in the shadows. These are completely different levels and different policies. The president is in excellent shape, which I am pleased with as a typical of the young generation and the youngest Euro MP, due to the fact that the president is always focusing on the young generation," he says.

Another politician, on the another hand, tells us that the president is about to launch an offensive. It's expected to be the face of the Law and Justice in the coming weeks. It has always been, but now we want to show that PiS is the biggest opposition force in Poland and we will impose communicative – we hear.

I'm certain that's the President's point.

How is cooperation on the Novogrodzka-Presidential Palace line in practice today? Does the president – despite all this – have a bit of a problem with the fact that he steals all the attention from Nawrocks today?

– specified things do not disturb him at all. Even Morawiecki didn't bother him. So why should he be disturbed by Nawrocki, who is doing precisely what you would like to do?

– But not in the sense that the CEO tells him to. It's about his attitude. To give new, current dynamics to what is happening. This is surely the President's point," he explains.

Law and Justice politicians besides offer a imagination of cooperation. any people are very moved erstwhile we ask about the presidential and Novgorod center.

– There are no 2 centers There is 1 center of power. The president is doing his job. What he promised. We go parallel, but in the same direction. There is simply a continuation of politics in the palace that we had as the PiS – they react.

One not without irony notes: – After all, all time the president performs, 2 or 3 pillars of Nowogrodzka stand next to him. The flow of information between them must be rapid. due to the fact that I know that the cognition of 1 pillar about the another on both sides is very fast.

Others call things by name.

"There's a strong presidential center," "These are independent centers"


Jacek Odoba comments: – These are independent centres. The president shows that he is very independent, but if we have common ideas, it is hard for the road to diverge. Ideally, we're very close. We have business in common. And that makes the correlation of cooperation very good.

– I think uncovering a deficiency of common ideas of statehood is simply a bad way. president Karol Nawrocki as a heavyweight contender showed that he was a good decision of Poles and a good candidate of president Kaczyński – he believes.

Another politician sees it this way: – The president ruled the Law and Justice, governs and will rule. Hopefully as long as possible. But we know there's a strong presidential center. The president is simply a president with a large social mandate. I am convinced that cooperation will be good. Of course, even in the best matrimony there are better and worse days, but you and the president will find a common language. They're both aware of that.

But it besides points to a future. Then it may turn out what the President's cooperation with the Law and Justice will truly look like.

– It is known that there is simply a powerful centre of Novogrodek and the only centre of the President, who has always stressed that he is simply a citizen candidate. He's not a PiS politician. He confesses the values of the PiS, but that doesn't mean he'll perceive to the instructions. I'm certain you won't. present there are no specified commands, due to the fact that there is no specified space. erstwhile the Law and Justice will rule, this cooperation will should be redefined. And possibly it will make in pain – believes the politician PiS.

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