Polish-German intergovernmental consultations with Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk and German Chancellor Friedrich Merz will be held in Berlin on Monday.
– Although you can never make up for intellectual and physical trauma, it is crucial to at least guarantee financial compensation people who survived the Holocaust, and those who survived the atrocities and genocide against the Polish people. The fact that we have waited so long gave emergence to large distrust," said Kiesewetter in the interview.
War reliefs for Poland. German politician has no doubt
At the same time, in the opinion of the Bundestag MP, the issue of reparation is "very complicated and sensitive, as it stimulates right-wing environments in Germany to make their own claims". Kiesewetter noted that Treaty 2+4 established a legal framework. – In this final regulation all reparation claims have been excluded He said.
– If we make an exception for 1 country, then We will reopen the full debate. The Germans would go with their bags and it wouldn't aid anyone. present we could have, like, a 100 countries that would start making claims," he said.
The Polish claim of 1.3 trillion euros Kiesewetter considers it "unbearable". At the same time, there is no uncertainty that "the issue is besides moral", and is critical of "the highly arrogant behaviour of Germany towards Poland in matters of common past".
“We said, “We have treaties, we have done this and that, so now delight shut up.” It was ignorance and pride. No historical sensitivity. 6 million Poles were killed, but three-four times more were straumatized. We targeted culture, murdered the elite, worked with the Soviets, e.g. in Katyń – mentioned Kiesewetter.
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In his opinion, Germany could, as part of its historical compensation, take over the costs of air defence of Poland, but "listening to Polish expectations alternatively than imposing a solution". I was glad erstwhile Chancellor Merz said he wanted to revive the Weimar Triangle. But it didn't go anywhere. We should not blame the tension between the president and the Prime Minister of Poland. Poland deserves much more commitment and respect from us said the CDU politician.
‘Building Nord Stream’ was a mistake’
The MP recalled how in March 2022 he received a request from the Ministry of abroad Affairs in Warsaw to warrant the transportation of respective 100 Leopard 2 tanks by Germany, which were to replace the T-72 tanks transferred to Ukraine. – The answer came only in July, I keep it to this day. It sounded, "Poland can get about 20 Leopards". According to Kiesewetter, this was 1 of the reasons why Warsaw signed arms contracts with South Korea.
Currently, the leading deputy in the area of abroad policy sees a field of closer cooperation with Poland, among others, in maritime patrolling and protection of offshore infrastructure in the Baltic Sea, as an example of action in this field with the Netherlands. In Kiesewettera's view, Germany "should learn from Poland on defence spending". – Poland spends almost 5% of GDP on defence, we little than 2%. You reached the level we wanted to scope only in the 1930s – he noted.
The CDU politician believes that a committee of enquiry is needed in Germany to clarify the question Berlin and Moscow, pointing to Nord Stream 2 in this context. – Building Nord Stream 1 and 2 was a immense mistake. It was a German-Russian project, we missed the neighbors. He threatened Ukraine and EU energy policy, he stressed.
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Kiesewetter assumed that the demolition of Nord Stream was done by the Russians, and that the communicative with the yacht "Andromeda" looked to him as a "operation under a false flag". – Gas pipeline was blown up in global waters, on installations built by Russian entities. The company associated with the bombing is registered in Poland, its owner has a Ukrainian and Russian passport, and 1 of the women active lives in Krasnodarski Country. However, we are not investigating this – he argued.
“In Germany, people are very curious in linking Nord Stream and the subject of corruption in Ukraine with a simplification in support for Ukraine,” Kiesewetter noted. According to the associate possible access to power alternate to Germany (AfD) would mean the exit of Germany from NATO, the EU and the euro area and "return to the logic of the 1870s to 1940s" and the pro-Russian policy. Co-chairman AfD Tino Chrupalla, who late stated that Poland could become a threat to Germany and charged the West with co-financing Russia's attack on Ukraine, Kiesewetter called “totally incompetent”.
"Europe as Russia's sphere of influence". CDU MP on US policy
I know quite a few erstwhile officers, colonels, generals. any of them sympathize with AfD. In the police and military, many people with conservative views are present disappointed in the US and see the “traditional” ties of Germany to Russia, reaching Carl von Clausewitz or Rapallo. They consider the U.S. to be a far, decadent power, and "German engineers plus Russian natural materials" are for them a recipe for leadership in Europe," said the MP.
At the same time, according to Kiesewetter, "There is no longer the United States that we need". The U.S. has broken from the rule-based order. They abandoned NATO. They've approached Russia. They are no longer a friendly ally defending Europe. They see Europe as Russia's sphere of influence. If Europe takes on more weight and buys more American equipment, possibly we'll be somewhere in the 3rd line of allies. If not, Donald Trump will leave us Russia," he said.
Kiesewetter stated that the first time "something broke in it in 2017 erstwhile Trump said NATO was obsolete". "I already asked if Germany could have European atomic deterrence. What are we gonna do if the Americans pull out? I felt a threat, he said. – Then the second minute was February 2025 erstwhile Trump “he treated Zelenski as a criminal in the White House”. That's erstwhile I understood. It's over, he said. “We are 4th in the US, after interior security, the Pacific and trade”, he added.
The politician reported that he spoke to the current Pentagon deputy chief Elbridge Colby last year. "We will not hazard our safety for east Estonia." And I said, "Well, we have NATO at a fewer speeds." And he said, “Yes, it is your NATO. This is your case," he reported.
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– The Americans have already begun to withdraw.. Romania, though not Poland. They've reduced their abilities. They stopped supplies of equipment to ports in the Mediterranean Sea, to Incirlik in Turkey and another bases. They withdrew many experts from logistics or electronic combat," said MP CDU. Meanwhile, as he acknowledges, “Russia feels no pressure.” “Its objectives have not changed: it wants the erstwhile states of the Warsaw Pact to exit NATO and retreat Americans from Europe. And the withdrawal of the U.S. is already ongoing, only quietly," he said.
"On the Way of Victory". Disturbing words of the German MP
Kiesewetter fears that Russia will proceed to engage in aggression, "to get territories, to trigger exile movements, to deepen social discontent in Europe". – Russia is on its way to victory.But it can be reversed. Germany needs more help. Europe must say to its taxpayers: "We must increase support for Ukraine to win and Russia to withdraw," the MP argued.
The aim is to "mental surrender of Russia as imperial and colonial powers", to recognise the "right to the existence of all neighbouring countries". To accomplish this, "it is essential to introduce European troops to the west of Ukraine, to take over air defence there".
– Russia expected at the beginning of the war to cut off its communication lines to the royal circuit. We know that. They sent a LNG vessel and another units to last the circuit. We didn't do anything. We didn't even think about it. We were in our consequence behind Russian expectations," said Kiesewetter.
As far as Germany is concerned, after Olaf Scholz's speech on Zeitenwende, “everything has weakened”. “Putin and Scholz were talking about atomic threats,” Kiesewetter pointed out. associate admitted that in his organization and in the SPD there were ‘Strong links to Moscow’. – Those who started Nord Stream 1 and 2, who blocked a sensible approach to Ukraine. This desire to leave the "open door" for Russia was a strategical blindness – he said.
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