Former prime ministers and president argued over the U.S. administration strategy and chances of peace in Ukraine. Jan Krzysztof Bielecki emphasized that Kiev did not have the strength to fight anymore and defended Washington's commitment. "Don't tell stories," said Bronisław Komorowski on the "Presidents and Prime Ministers" program. Leszek Miller, on the another hand, stated that possible peace is "the consequence of military position".
According to Jan Krzysztof Bielecki commenting US-Russia negotiations about Ukraine, you can't make Americans "little children".
- I'm sorry. most likely only in Poland it is felt, specified a belief that Americans are complete losers, is superb Putin, who plays them and fundamentally we announce any surrender ourselves - said the erstwhile Prime Minister.
In his opinion, American politics "go to peace" and would like peace to be adopted within the current frontline. He pointed out that it was not a lasting peace, but a solution akin to the situation between North and South Korea.
An argument about peace talks. "Don't tell stories."
The another conviction was Bronisław Komorowski. - It's naive to number on Putin to quit his goals. (...) This is not a question of who wants more peace, it is simply a question of the rules on which the truce is to take place - the erstwhile president pointed out.
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- Simple. 5 1000 people die all week, no Ukrainians have strength - interrupted Bielecki.
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- Nope. Don't tell stories. These people die for their country's independence. On the another hand, the Russians die for dreaming of Putin's empire. Me and many another Western politicians have blame for Trump that he does not care about strengthening Ukraine's negotiating position, but did much to strengthen Putin's position - Komorowski replied.
He pointed out, among another things, the announcements regarding the halting of Ukraine's accession to NATO and the agreement on rare-earth metals.
What should Ukraine do? Leszek Miller has no doubt
He joined the discussion Leszek Miller. He said there was no specified thing as "fair peace".
- I'm sorry. Peace is the consequence of a military position that both sides occupy or more... As we look at the map, we see the negotiating position of Russia and Ukraine. 20 percent of the land (Ukraine - ed.) now controls Russia. Putin says clearly: I propose the layout of the territory for peace. You will step down on the territory, I will bring you peace - said the erstwhile Prime Minister.
The interviewer Katarzyna Zdanowicz asked if Ukraine should agree to Russian claims.
- I'm sorry. Of course she should, said Miller.
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- I'm sorry. Prime Minister, Putin speaks much more. If there is simply a change of power in Ukraine, you are to give us not only the areas occupied present - Komorowski interrupted it. - The question is who will we help," he added.
Miller replied that negotiations always begin with advanced demands.
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