Warzecha, Woś, Karpiel: Poland gives, Ukraine does not bloom

pch24.pl 9 months ago

Poland makes a mistake by signaling most of the time Ukraine that our assistance and support are absolutely unconditional, due to the fact that it is so much in our interest that we will support Ukraine no substance how it behaves," said Łukasz Warzech in the fresh episode of the PCh24TV program "Right Simple Plus".

ed. Łukasz Karpiel referred in the beginning to the text by Witold Jurasz (Onet.pl) about the tension that occurred in Kiev between the head of the MFA Radosław Sikorski and the president of Ukraine. Volodymyr Zelenski, among another things, was to be dissatisfied with Polish aid and to request even more weapons, and our delegation – to be amazed at the behaviour of the hosts.

First, in this article of very well-informed Witold Jurash, only 1 thing amazed me not so much as she thought, or alternatively – to 1 thing I doubt “Lukasz Warzech commented. – Namely to the place where Witek writes about “surprising the Polish delegation”. As far as I know Mr. Sikorski, I don't think he was surprised. He has been dealing with Ukrainians for a long time; he is simply a man who can take on different faces and is besides this face of maximum proukrainism, assumed mainly at meetings in the West. On the another hand, I think he knows perfectly well this post-Soviet manner of Ukrainian diplomacy, and the post-Soviet manner of Ukrainian diplomacy, which is all this time after February 24, 2022. I do not think he was surprised, possibly individual in the Polish delegation was amazed by this characteristic brutality; individual who had dealt with it for the first time. alternatively than Minister Sikorski – rated the publicist.

– Witold Juras wrote in this text, which seems to me to be a very accurate message and a diagnosis that the Ukrainian side clearly recognizes that it does not gotta prosecute any Polish favour at all, as the Polish side treats the Ukrainian fight with Russia as its own, in its own name. Therefore, there is no request to show any reciprocity. This short conviction is, in my opinion, absolutely crucial. It shows where almost from the beginning of this conflict.... Poland makes a mistake by signaling most of the time Ukraine precisely what Witek Juras described as a Ukrainian interpretation: that our assistance and support are absolutely unconditional, due to the fact that it is so in our interest that we will support Ukraine no substance how it behaves – emphasized the guest of PCh24TV.

– The Ukrainians are making absolute usage of it – there is nothing fresh about it, I explained this mechanics repeatedly, besides in the "Right Simple Plus". They usage it due to the fact that that's how their diplomacy works, due to the fact that that's how their politics work, due to the fact that that's how they're taught, and finally, due to the fact that that's what a sensible country does, which guardes its own interests. If the partner says, “I will give you everything and you do not gotta give me anything in return due to the fact that I care so much for you to succeed”, the another side says, “OK, OK, I will take and I will not bloom.” And this is precisely what Polish-Ukrainian relations look like.

– The problem is – and I think that Minister Sikorski is aware of it besides – that the introduction of any aspect of reciprocity, which I understand, he besides tried to introduce in the substance of Volyn – for which he has a large plus – is simply besides late. It is already a minute erstwhile Ukraine (...) may be a small more “on the music”, but Poland – for example due to the usage of its resources – does not have so much to offer.

– I feel that behind the scenes Mr Sikorski sounds much more reasonable than erstwhile he speaks publically – He summarized Luke the plot. Here he referred, among others, to Sikorski's objection that Poland could surrender further military aircraft to Ukraine only erstwhile it obtained weapons in their replacement.

I am in an ungrateful function due to the fact that I do not have specified a extremist position as Luke has presented since the beginning of the conflict. – noted Rafał Woś, deputy editor-in-chief of “Solidarność Tygodnik”, second of the guests of Łukasz Karpiel. – It must be said that this position, in which Luke was rather alone, is now slow becoming a majority attitude in the Polish public opinion – he said. – It is increasingly in fashion to complain about our unconditional support of Ukraine, to present the situation in specified categories that, here Poland is simply a slow player, specified a “sucker”, a naïve man who helps for “no fool”. There is besides a thread of criticism of Polish Romanticism, in contrast to the expected rationalism and pragmatism, whether Western countries or Ukraine itself.

– It is hard not to announcement that this discussion is an extension of Polish interior policy. The erstwhile government faced an existential threat Ukraine stood in rule on her side. It was calculated that it was better to have Russia 2,000 kilometres from its borders than at its borders. This differs Poland from Germany (...). due to the fact that the PiS represented this policy, defended it long, for good and bad (...) in a natural way political opponents of the PiS, including the Civic Platform and Minister Sikorski somewhere out there are looking for their political chance to show “aha, see how they were losers...” stated Rafał Woś.

“The Confederate besides speaks this language, and he besides “says Warzecha” for a long time, and they too: “Grow your soul, you can ride the PiS-sheep as you like.” Not getting into this knowing of diplomacy – which is not very close to me at all – I think diplomacy is forging itself in private, in smaller groups, and it doesn't substance who answered to whom and how they answered and whether individual was good or little kind, whether he shouted or not. More about the course of events are the broader processes, conditions, interests, resources, alliances – He commented.

– As we are talking about Polish-Ukrainian relations today, we are also, in a sense, in a dispute between PiS and antiPiS – rated Vice-President of the popular "Tysola".

Source: PCh24TV

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