I'm not signing anything. I am not Karol Nawrocki", said Rafał Trzaskowski in an interview with Sławomir Mentzen. The KO candidate thus refused to first the declaration of the Confederate leader, signed by Karol Nawrocki a fewer days ago. Before that, Trzaskowski accepted 4 of the 8 points that had been included in the document.
Sławomir Mentzen At the outset, he asked 5 short questions to Rafał Trzaskowski. The first afraid the liquidation of public tv and the TVP Info channel.
Rafał Trzaskowski He said he was in favour of this station being shut down for political reasons. - I was in favour of eliminating, I think TVP Info can be eliminated due to the fact that any populist power would like to usage it," he said.
Rafał Trzaskowski: I will not sign in the dark
On the question of taking part in the independency March, he stated that he could participate in it and expressed hope that specified an chance would arise.
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- I'm sorry. Will you come with me? Shall we all go? I hope there will be specified an chance that we will all go on a march - said the candidate KO.
The next question afraid the president and the government from the same party. Rafał Trzaskowski said it was bad during the PiS era due to the fact that "Andrzej Duda He signed everything."
- I'm sorry. The situation is completely different. Andrzej Duda writes everything Kaczyński gives him to sign, and I will not sign," he said.
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- I'm sorry. There was a situation where we had a president who signs everything in the dark. Just like Karol Nawrocki. I will not sign in the dark - he assured.
Sławomir Mentzen besides asked if he felt ashamed of me before the voters that so many promises from the parliamentary run had not been made.
- I'm sorry. Is it a shame? The promises are made and will be made. It could have been faster... I am not happy with the pace, but I am not ashamed," he added.
Eight points of Sławomir Mentzen
First point on the list Sławomir Mentzen concerns taxes. The Confederate Leader expects no taxes to be increased and the government will not introduce fresh ones. Rafał Trzaskowski said that he is "an enemy of fresh taxes" and does not want to increase the rates presently established. However, he stated that there are "exceptional" situations, among others, at the time of the global crisis.
- I'm sorry. Is it possible to rise taxes in specified a situation erstwhile the planet wobbles in jobs? - asked Rafał Trzaskowski.
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Second point in the list Sławomir Mentzen concerns the ban on the introduction of a law limiting cash turnover and standing "at the defender of the Polish gold".
- I'm sorry. I will stand defender of Polish gold and see no reason to limit cash. Poles like cash and it's good for us to usage it. On the another hand, we must remember that for example BLIK is simply a Polish invention. My children usage BLIK in fact," said Rafał Trzaskowski.
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Sławomir Mentzen explained that he was afraid that the simplification in cash would lead to the surveillance of citizens. He besides asked if the Polish government would introduce the euro.
- I'm sorry. We will not introduce the euro. Right now, the goldfish guarantees us resilience to crises - said the candidate KO. - There's no specified thing. Nobody wants to introduce the euro," said Rafał Trzaskowski.
Rafał Trzaskowski opposed to hatred speech
The 3rd item from Sławomir Mentzen's list reads: "I will not sign any law limiting freedom of expression in accordance with the Polish constitution". Rafał Trzaskowski stressed at the outset that Polish law forbids speech of hatred and calling for violence, and this applies to both everyday life and the Internet.
- I'm sorry. What about this song by Cypis with 8 stars? Is that hatred speech? Your colleagues sang it on Campus," said Sławomir Mentzen.
- I'm sorry. My colleagues did not sing this.... Let's leave it and think about what it is to call for hatred," said Rafał Trzaskowski.
KO candidate said he would sign a bill to prevent hatred speech. He stressed that he would not want to be utmost in this, but would like to counteract abroad propaganda and prohibited content aimed at minors.
Yes for Ukraine in NATO
The 4th item on Mentzen's list is, "I will not sign the ratification of Ukraine's accession to NATO". Rafał Trzaskowski immediately said that he had a different opinion and he is not against Ukraine joining NATO.
- I'm sorry. I like Putin to knock out all his teeth in Ukraine, not ours. I am in favour of Ukraine being part of Europe, not being caught by Putin. Putin understands the language of force and only then will he not proceed the war if there are safety guarantees," said Rafał Trzaskowski.
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The president of Warsaw stressed that alliances and common defence in European countries are important. - If Putin sees that we are weak, there is specified a threat that he will go further," he added.
- I'm sorry. Piłsudski already 100 years ago knew that if we had buffered you with a safety warrant then Russia if it attacked anyone, it would break its teeth but it would besides see the determination of the West - added Trzaskowski.
Poland will not send troops to Ukraine
The 5th point of the declaration concerns sending Polish soldiers to Ukraine. Rafał Trzaskowski immediately stressed that there was no specified plan. - There's no plan. If we are talking about this, if Ukraine is in NATO in 10 or 15 years, then of course, that is erstwhile Article 5 applies - he added.
The next evidence of the declaration is "I will not sign any bill limiting the access of Poles to arms". - Is that an idea? due to the fact that I haven't heard of him. I don't know where you got this. There are no specified plans, I am against if they were - said Rafał Trzaskowski.
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The candidate KO added that he besides does not want to liberalise the current rules.
- I'm sorry. You're not going to pull me off to praise what's in the United States. I am not going to liberalize anything - added the candidate KO.
Rafał Trzaskowski on the European Union
Seventh point from the list prepared by Sławomir Mentzen reads, "I will not accept the transfer of any competence authorities of the Republic of Poland to bodies of the European Union".
- I'm sorry. They are already so much expanded that I see no reason to grow them. I wondered if there was an area where these competences could be extended and it was hard for me to find one," said Rafał Trzaskowski.
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Point 8 afraid the adoption "ratification of the fresh EU treaties weakening the function of Poland, e.g. by weakening the voice or taking distant the right of veto".
- I'm sorry. This law has already been eliminated in many areas, only abroad policy remains, and unanimity should be maintained here. due to the fact that we have a mechanics like a constructive abstain. We have a mechanics of alleged enhanced cooperation, erstwhile countries can establish cooperation and decision on without another countries - said Rafał Trzaskowski.
"I'm not Charles Nawrock"
After the questions about the eight-point list, it was revealed that Rafał Trzaskowski agrees with 4 of them. Sławomir Mentzen He asked if this would at least sign those 4 points, to which the president of Warsaw said no.
- I'm sorry. I'm not signing anything. I am not Karol Nawrocki - he said.
- I'm sorry. Mr. Sławomir, I made any kind of declaration, so you can always account for me. Why do you request signatures? There are declarations - he added Rafał Trzaskowski.
