With a considerable hold (almost an hour!) the event of Rafał Trzaskowski, called the "debate", began in the sports hall in Koński, broadcast by TVP in liquidation, TVN and Polsat. As highlighted by the journalists, the organizer is the staff of the KO candidate. It was originally planned as a run-off with Karol Nawrocki, later the remaining competitors were invited in the election race. These arrived at this event, shortly after the end of the debate on the marketplace in Horses conducted by tv in Poland24, Republic and tv Trwam! Right before the event, the safety guards wouldn't let Mark Jakubiak in the hall!
The debate is organised by the election staff of the presidential candidate Rafał Trzaskowski, and tv Poland, TVN24 and Polsat News have undertaken to carry out, implement this debate and, most importantly, make the signal available for free to all curious media
said Joanna Danikowska-Paź at the beginning of the debate.
The “debate” of Trzaskovsky's staff, neo-TVP, TVN and Polsat were joined by candidates who participated in the debate of tv in Poland24, Republic and Trwam (Karol Nawrocki, Szymon Hołownia, Krzysztof Stanowski, Joanna Senyszyn, Marek Jakubiak), as well as the candidate of the Left Magdalena Biejat and Maciej Maciak.
Rafał Trzaskowski did not come to the debate held just now. This is simply a question for Rafał Trzaskowski. As you organize a debate for 3 televisions and do not want to let my chief of staff Paweł Kiernaker, chief of staff Rafał Trzaskowski did not invitation for discussion... Don't pretend, ladies and gentlemen.
“ Karol Nawrocki said in his strong words, entering the sports hall, harassed by journalists!
Invitation of another candidates at the last minute
Let us remind you that KO candidate for president at the last minute "invited" another its competitors. erstwhile it was known that an open debate on the marketplace in Koński was about to begin, conducted by the Republic, tv in Poland24 and tv Trwam.
Nawrocki about Trzaskowski: ‘Coward’
During the first circular of questions, Karol Nawrocki called Rafał Trzaskowski "the coward"!
The comment besides requires what has happened in fresh days. We're in a situation where actually my main opponent Rafał Trzaskowski did not have the courage to attend the debate, and after the second part of the public opinion and 2 conservative TVs were excluded from reporting specified a debate. I'm here out of respect for TVN viewers, government tv and Polsat television, But the biggest threat is to make a coward the Chief of the Armed Forces.
“ He said Karol Nawrocki, citizen candidate supported by the Law and Justice.
I am amazed that we have all moved on to the agenda of what has happened here today, due to the fact that we have had to get into this debate by force, enter here and we are not complete. There are not all presidential candidates here. It seems highly unfair to me that only those who had nothing planned for present or who were close to it came here. It shouldn't be like this.
— scored Krzysztof Stanowski.
It shouldn't look like TVP in liquidation is organizing, producing any kind of event of 1 of the candidates
“He added.
We were all set for May 12 and all the candidates will meet. You challenged me, you were afraid to stand 1 in 1. I regret it. present I'm glad to meet you in specified a circle.
— convinced in an embarrassing kind Rafał Trzaskowski (KO).
A dispute over illegal migrants!
During the "debate" Trzaskowski attacked the chief of staff of Karol Nawrocki – Paweł Kierzernaker on the subject of illegal migrants and the defence of borders.
Today we have a hybrid war on our east border and that is why we must have the safest border in Europe. And that's what's happening. Unfortunately, our predecessors and PiS, Mr. Chief of Staff, my counter-candidate, was liable for exile policy and we saw what he was doing. He distributed that government of visas to the left and to the right in a corrupt procedure, allowed hundreds of thousands of migrants... We're fixing it all today.
“Ko candidate accused.
The Polish government abdicated from this to address the western border. On the another hand, Rafał Trzaskowski, who is inactive here, signed and spoke clearly about allowing illegal migrants. present he drew a small more anti-immigrant. As president, I will search to unilaterally denounce the migration pact
“ Karol Nawrocki replied.
The talker of the Sejm, candidate of the 3rd Way, besides struck Trzaskovsky Simon Holovnia.
The Polish border must be sealed, it cannot be crossed illegally, then most problems will be solved. It must be sealed and guarded. As regards the labour market, for example, I do not realize changing the attitude of Rafał Trzaskowski as regards the bill that we passed that 800+ would only be eligible for those Ukrainian children who would go to school
“The Holownia said.
Also and later, the candidate KO attacked the PiS.
It was the government of the Law and Justice that led to our having and having the highest energy prices in Europe. They could not even usage EU money to modernise all our energy
— charged the “green” manor of Warsaw.
Trzaskowski to Nawrock and the ripost!
During the “debate” of his staff, Trzaskowski decided to address the question to Karol Nawrocki.
You have said various things about security, but among another things you have said about the end of the war in Ukraine and you have said that you will lead to a situation where the president of the United States, the president of Russia, the president of Ukraine and only you, no 1 else from the European Union, will sit at the negotiating table. How do you want to do that if you have no relations in the European Union? How do you intend to bring all Europe to Poland in these negotiations?
“KO candidate asked. In another part, he attacked Nawrocki, accusing him of “talking in Russian propaganda.”
The Vice-President must be aware that Europe is in a gigantic crisis, and that is besides the work of Mr Donald Tusk, who signed the pact with Putin, together with Angela Merkel, and on the basis of this pact, the Russian Federation has attacked Ukraine with millions of euros. Climate pact, migration pact, all your boss. As president of the Polish State, I will not be anyone's servant, especially the butler of the German State and my relations with the EU countries I will base my relation on a simple principle. Firstly Poland, first Poles. Future negotiations (...) in relation to Ukraine should evidently have a Polish component, but you can ask Donald Tusk why he is not standing at the table
“Nawrocki replied.
Mr Nawrocki is being prosecuted by Vladimir Putin, Mr Vice-President, the same man your boss went to the pier with, don't fool around about Russian propaganda. I've knocked down 42 russian propaganda objects and they're after me. It's ridiculous and ridiculous.
“ He besides answered in another part.
When you call Donald Tusk and say that foot-and-mouth and illegal migrants are threatening us from the western border
He besides asked Trzaskowski.
I don't know what you were doing in Moscow erstwhile you went there just after the start of the war in Ukraine, but yes, exactly, you're repeating the words of Russian propaganda and that's not responsible. This is the attitude that deserves to be criticized by all of us today. How can 1 say that the EU is truly co-author of the war Putin started, Putin murdering Ukrainians who endanger Europe as a whole? The Russians are utilizing this... It's amazing that you can talk like that in a presidential debate.
— the KO candidate continued to charge.
Funny moment. “Who are you?”
Krzysztof Stanowski decided to ask Maciej Maciak:
Who are you?
The candidate replied: “Little Pole”.
When I joined this presidential race, I was absolutely convinced that I would be the most frivolous candidate in this group. But the longer this election run takes, the more I start to uncertainty myself and appreciate how hilarious this run is being done on many levels.
“Krzysztof Stanowski, founder of Channel Zero, besides commented on the debate.
Rainbow Rafał got the LGBT flag and hid it!
At 1 point, Karol Nawrocki gave a “present” to Trzaskowski. It's the LGBT flag that the candidate KO... hid under the desktop!
For 7 years I led the Polish State's memorial policy as the manager of the planet War II Museum and the head of IPN have relations worldwide. I don't want to brag about them, but I'll tell the editor and our viewers, which is very important... Always with this beautiful Polish, white and red flag and I will represent it. I besides have for Mr. Rafał Trzaskowski, due to the fact that late he has been moving distant from this symbolism, my chief of staff, whom he has already mentioned, he has been pursuing for showing a photograph with the LGBT flag from “Gazeta Wyborcza”, so Mr. Rafale, I with the white and red flag always around the planet for many years and in the future, and others in my own way in many languages.
“A citizen candidate with the support of the Law and Justice.
It was very sad, ladies and gentlemen, as we had consulted before this debate, it was my staff who said that something like this could happen. I told you that the PiS candidate won't get it due to the fact that I truly won't deny anyone the right to white and red, and we're all patriots. We have all right to put white and red on our table. You guys have any absolute obsession and president Kaczyński, à by gay. I don't know what you're afraid of. Kaczyński is afraid of Europe, afraid of gays, afraid of rodeo, it's truly something amazing, fear and complexes
— tried to repost, repeating ritual anti-PiS passwords.
Later, the LGBT flag, hidden by Trzaskowski, was taken over by Magdalena Biejat.
I wanted to propose to Rafał Trzaskowski due to the fact that I just saw that he hid the rainbow flag. I'm not ashamed of her. I'll take her from you.
“The Left candidate said, putting a rainbow flag on her desktop.
Riposta Nawrocki to Holownia!
Nawrocki besides answered Holowna's words, which repeated the slogans about "duopol"
I'm a nonpartisan candidate, and you know it. So don't look for the 3rd way between me and Rafał Trzaskowski due to the fact that Rafał Trzaskowski in this duo is the only associate of the political party
said the president of IPN.
Another attack from Trzaskowski!
I want to ask Mr Nawrocki, what are you truly afraid of in this EU? due to the fact that once, not so long ago, president Kaczyński himself announced that he wanted a European army and that the president of the EU should be in charge of it, and present just all the time fear, complexes, hiding. After all, present we, strong in the EU, are convincing the EU to do precisely what we do, that is to guarantee our security. What are you afraid of in this Union?
He asked Trzaskowski, addressing Nawrocki.
Vice-President PO, if you want to ask president Kaczyński, ask him. Here stands Karol Nawrocki. I am not afraid of anything in the EU. I am not afraid, of course, that I will negociate with the EU those issues that do not suit me as the future president of the Polish State. I do not like, not afraid, all centralization reforms and attempts to centralize many sectors of Polish life, besides Polish defence or Polish education. We see what the migration pact is doing on our western border, that's objective.
“The citizen candidate answered.
And I ask Mr president and all of you. Where is this “Hard East”? Why you are building a "NATO-bis" and trying to make a European army, at the minute erstwhile you have made so many mistakes, your boss Donald Tusk has made so many mistakes. I read these documents, there is simply a real threat to the Polish state
“ Nawrocki besides reposted.
The German thread
Karol Nawrocki stressed during the "debate" that it was Rafał Trzaskowski who regularly missed the truth!
I have a question for Rafał Trzaskowski, of course. You are the only politician who was publically funded by the German state – Campus Polska, Adenauer Foundation. What commitments did you make to the German State for the measures?
“A citizen candidate supported by the Law and Justice Department asked.
I was wondering if we'd be dealing with a small paranoia in this debate, but you can see it's totally paranoid. any anti-German phobias again. I truly don't get it. As today, erstwhile there is simply a threat from Russia, only Germans can be feared at all times. You live in the 21st century
“Trzaskowski replied, escaping the subject of her Campus and adding that the full right had worked with the Adenauer Foundation in the 1990s.
‘Telecommunications” by Trzaskowski
Marek Jakubiak decided to ask Rafal Trzaskowski about the capital and its absence as a ruler!
You took your oath before the Warsawers.
“The president of Warsaw does not want to be.”
Thank you for that question. I don't think you've been to Warsaw for a long time. That's due to the fact that you could see how the city changed incredibly. You could take a ride on public transportation (sic!)
“Trzaskowski replied by making a mistake.
‘He is no longer the leading talent show”
Szymon Holovnia tried to harass Karol Nawrocki, wanting the president of the IPN... to name the presidents of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland and Hungary.
Marshal, I think you've forgotten that you're no longer leading a talent show on TVN, but you're the marshal in the presidential debate and you're not asking questions (...). I'm not going to mention to you any more names and names of European leaders, this is simply a very ridiculous convention, Marshal.
“Nawrocki replied.
It was hot!
It was truly hot and tense before the event! Let us besides stress that consistently on the radio neo-TVP inactive reported that the organizer is the staff of the candidate KO.
