How can the result of the United States presidential elections affect global policy? How can European countries cooperate with the fresh American president? What is evidenced by the addition of the North Korean Army to the Russian-Ukrainian War? How far to NATO is Ukraine? What future awaits the Alliance? Is war with Russia inevitable? About this in a conversation between Michał Górski and Robert Bezel - the main specialist in the safety and Defence Department of east Studies, manager of NATO Information Office in Moscow from 2010 to 2015.