Sławomir Mentzen during a speech in the Sejm, November 28, 2023.
– Let's figure out what we're talking about here first. Pegasus is simply a spyware that allows access to all mobile phone. Allows access to photos, recordings, messages, microphones and cameras.
As smartphones became an inseparable part of our lives, each of us, during the PiSu rule, had a listening device that could inactive evidence us at any time. That's what we're talking about.
The safety of totalitarian states in the 20th century did not have specified opportunities to violate someone's privacy. They didn't have that kind of surveillance capability. The past of the usage of Pegasus by the PiS services from the very beginning is simply a past of illegal, immoral, even disgusting activities.
– It started with 25 million zlotys being illegally transferred from the Justice Fund to the CBA. The CBA subsequently illegally purchased software incompatible with Polish law. And then this illegally funded and illegally purchased software was utilized for an illegal purpose.
Pegasus was created to track the perpetrators of the heaviest crimes. Murderers, pedophiles, terrorists, organized crime groups. Meanwhile, it turns out that Poland is an incredibly peaceful and safe country. Where there are no dangerous thugs. Where there is no organized crime. Nobody's kidnapping anyone. No murder, no rape. No 1 sets up large deals. Nobody buys the bill. Nothing's wrong. And the bored of this service, this peace, this security, this regulation of law, took over the surveillance of opposition politicians.
What do you have in head that 1 of the most dangerous criminals in Poland is Krzysztof Brejza? Or Michael Kołodziejczak or Roman Gierty? What do you have in mind? Did anyone truly think to watch the chief of staff of the largest opposition organization during the campaign? And you think he's a very dangerous criminal? Bo It occurred to individual in the Law and Justice ServiceOh, my God!
– Besides, you have identified much more of these “criminals”. The media reports that you have made 3,000 attacks on 500 devices belonging to the controllers and employees of the ultimate Audit Office. I You've been monitoring these people while NIK has been dealing with – surprise, case – envelope elections.
The best thing about your esbek governments, your esbek services is that the day before the election silence you published on TVP a evidence of the conversation between the president of the ultimate Chamber of Control and his attorney!
There's nothing to clean up. @SlawomirMentzen Sweeping! Excellent MP debut! 7 minutes of clear fact about the regulation of the Law and illegal eavesdropping and surveillance of Poles Pegasus.
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– What would happen if you ruled a 3rd word by any unfortunate coincidence?! Would we watch opposition politicians talk to their scientist on the news? With their doctor? Or would you make the first confessional broadcast in past consecutive from confessional? due to the fact that people there have phones, too, and you could have overheard them.
– How is this different from what SB did in PRL? Besides, we're not the only ones asking ourselves questions like that. The creators of this software NSO Group besides asked specified a question. And they answered that question. And they took your right to usage Pegasus. Poland flew out and from the list of countries that can usage this software. This list includes countries specified as Lithuania, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Cyprus and even India. But Poland is not there due to the fact that you utilized this software improperly.
– This case has another theme. All indications are that the NSO Group held the data you illegally held on its servers to which Israeli peculiar services most likely had access. And the question should be asked, what, like not spying and betrayal, is the surveillance of Polish politicians and then the approval to transfer these data to abroad interviews. That's what I call it.
– The full affair is Polish Watergate. For the record, the Watergate affair began with the fact that it turned out that co-workers of Richard Nixon's administration illegally attempted to mount a wiretap in the Democratic Party's staff. erstwhile it came out, Nixon had to resign. respective films were made about the full case, any even good. But it's said after 50 years. It was a large deal. And no 1 had any uncertainty that specified things should not be done. And you say nothing happened. As the Prime Minister said today, this is simply a substitute subject. Or like you said, it's a political hucpa. Did you say earlier that Pegasus is “ha ha old game console”. No, it's not an old game console. This is an illegal spy device you utilized to spy on the Polish opposition. ...