A skillful Mentzen procedure? erstwhile associate of the Confederacy advises Trzaskowski: Don't let him grovel

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– This is the gameplay that makes Sławek the 1 to whom everyone has to grovel," comments Artur Dziambor, erstwhile Confederate MP erstwhile we ask about the movement of Sławomir Mentzen, that is, the offer of talks with presidential candidates on his YouTube channel. The fame is now on its peak. And he uses it as a master. He now feels that this is his time – he adds in a conversation with the subject. How can this truly translate into support for Rafał Trzaskowski and Karol Nawrocki? This is what the Confederate politicians think.


The offer and conditions of the Confederate candidate were already answered by Karol Nawrocki, and Rafał Trzaskowski. – Sławomir Mentzen invited me on his YouTube channel. Yes, Mr Sławomir, I will come and talk to you – announced the candidate KO on Tuesday 20 May.

He said he didn't warrant he'd sign anything. But I warrant you, we'll talk honestly. In many things we can agree, in a fewer we will surely disagree, but an open debate is what we request – he announced.

Earlier, Karol Nawrocki besides announced that he would talk to Mentzen. He suggested he could sign his declaration. “This is simply a serious candidate, and a serious offer,” he said.

– This is the game that makes Sławek the 1 that everyone has to grovel at. The winner of this game will be Sławek, not Trzaskowski, or Nawrocki. due to the fact that Sławek will not say, "Vote for Nawrocki" or "Vote for Trzaskowski" – comments Artur Dziambor, erstwhile Confederate MP, in an interview with Temat.

– He can't say that. But what if he's the 1 putting both candidates above the wall? And they gotta ask him if they come to him? In the Confederacy they now think they regulation the world. The fame is on its peak. And he uses it masterfully. He now feels that this is his time – he adds.

Nawrocki points hard if he signed Mentzen's postulates.

– After all, they are a direct denial of everything that PiS has done for 8 years! So what if they go there, they're going to grovel and grin and say, "Of course, Mr. Sławku," "Of course we won't rise any taxes." After all, PiS raised and created 20 respective taxes. In the erstwhile word we criticized him from morning to night, all day, and now abruptly it turns out that the PiS is almost an ultralibertarian organization – points Artur Dziambor.

According to him, Rafał Trzaskowski should approach this completely differently. Go talk to Mentzen, but just say what he thinks.

– Not to say, "Okay, Mr. Sławku," "Of course, Mr. Sławku," "Yes, Mr. Sławku." due to the fact that that's what Sławko wants. This is the perfect position for him. It'll make him jump even higher. due to the fact that he'll say, "Here you go. You have your presidential candidates. They'll do anything I tell them." You can talk to Sławek. Just don't go to him to grovel," he emphasizes.

Mentzen's proposal for Trzaskowski and Nawrocki


Let's recall, on Tuesday May 21, Sławomir Mentzen invited both winners of the first circular of presidential elections to talk on his YouTube channel. He besides presented an 8-point declaration he intends to give them to sign. There are specified points:

"My constituents don't watch your TV, they don't buy your media propaganda. They usage social media, they watch my stuff. If you care about their voices, convince them to each other" – announced Mentzen for X, erstwhile the full Poland was waiting for a decision, which candidate would support in the second circular of elections.



Reactions in the Confederacy? They estimation Mentzen made the right move. But who and how can it benefit? erstwhile asked by us, the present and erstwhile Confederate politicians measure how Mentzen voters can respond to Trzaskowski and Nawrocki. And as both – from their position – can fight for their voices.

Euro MP of the Confederation: – large political intuition of our candidate


– The treatment with the proposal to participate in the conversation with Sławomir Mentzen on his YouTube channel is very clever. I approve. Our candidate's excellent political intuition – responds Tomasz Buczek, the Euro MP of the Confederation.

– It was a very good play by Sławomir Menzten due to the fact that it shows that he is fighting to the end for respect for the voice of the people who decided to support him. Now he will effort to see what demands from the Confederate programme are to be arranged for voters who voted for Sławomir Mentzen, and that has always been our most interesting – he adds.

The proposal did not surprise him.

– We knew those plans. The staff of Sławomir Mentzen informs us, the nationalists as their coalitions in the Confederate, about the decisions of our candidate. The invitation went to both candidates. Now we are waiting for which 1 of them will want to appear on the Channel of Fame. I know that president Nawrocki's staff has already confirmed his involvement. On the another hand, Rafał Trzaskowski's staff will most likely analyse whether it will be worth participating in specified a conversation, or if he would otherwise effort to convince our voters. This is already the decision of Rafał Trzaskowski's staff – he spoke in a conversation with the subject before the PO candidate announced his decision.

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"Our electorate is intelligent. He makes his own choices."


Let's presume that Mentzen will have his talks with both candidates. What's next? Should we anticipate him to announce who he supports?

– I do not know whether Sławomir Mentzen will express direct support for any of the candidates or simply leave this decision to the voters. possibly Rafał Trzaskowski will present himself so well or so badly that the decision will either be of support or not. Or will there be a direct decision to support Karol Nawrocki? We don't know that. Let's wait. We believe our electorate is intelligent and makes its own choices. We're not forced to point fingers at him. There will be no coercion on our part," said Tomasz Buczek.

For the moment, he believes that most of the Confederate electorate will support Karol Nawrocki. any of it stays at home. How much will Rafal Trzaskowski support? In my opinion tiny – says Tomasz Buczek.

What do others think?


Dobromir Sośnierz will not participate in the second round: – I do not anticipate large surprises


– I think it's a very good move. It is crucial to take its voters seriously and personally, alternatively than handing them over like a sack of potatoes, as any another candidates do – he responds in a conversation with the subject Dobromir Sosnier, a erstwhile Euro MP of the Confederation.



He himself in the second circular does not intend to participate and suspects that any people will do the same.

Those are the ones who don't want the PO-PiS. And since we have failed to turn over this table again and we will have a candidate from the PO or the PIS again, I think that any will not actually participate in the II circular – he believes.

And if they go: – I think that in the current situation, erstwhile power belongs to the PO camp, most Confederate voters will alternatively be willing to support the opposition candidate. I'm not expecting large surprises. I say most Confederate voters tend to sympathize with anyone but a government candidate. Whoever doesn't participate in the 2nd circular would most likely vote for the 2nd round. Not individual who can get a monopoly on the ruling coalition.

"Trzeskowski should show he's a cool guy, a smiling, cool guy"


Artur Dziambor besides believes that most Confederates will vote for Nawrocki. But it draws attention to Mentzen's fresh "virtual" electorate. Today, due to him, the erstwhile presidential candidate hands out cards, but the situation may not last forever.

– This hype is hard to maintain. Simon Holownia, who obtained 13 percent of the vote in the 2020 presidential election, began to grin at him. They moved to him from the PO, formed a party. erstwhile Simon Holovnia entered the Sejm, people went to the cinema to watch the session of the Sejm. And this hype disappeared after 2 months – it reminds us.

Therefore, in his opinion, Trzaskowski should show that he is "a cool guy, a smiling, cool guy".

Some Mentzen supporters are random. The fame is cool to them, a cool guy who says that first cereal, then milk, and never Hawaiian in life. And the same people are going to vote for Nawrocki? In my opinion, Rafał Trzaskowski is more cool than Nawrocki – he thinks.

Therefore, if the young people who look at Mentzen present for reasons another than ideology, will have the election of Nawrocki-Trzaskowski can bet on the PO candidate.

– If they see Trzaskowski as cool, it's his only chance. He should go to Slawka, sleepy, smiling and cool. He has views that most young people have. He just couldn't spell it out and lost this fight with Mentzen – he comments.



"This Trzaskowski's got it in the Confederacy"


But what about another Confederate electorate? Could something happen that would increase the support for Rafał Trzaskowski?

– As far as I'm concerned, I don't think so. Rafał Trzaskowski has no credibility in our electorate, due to the fact that the PO, to which he belongs does not fulfill his promises. Simon Holown's consequence shows that his disappointed voters are leaving for the Confederacy – he comments.

In 2020, erstwhile Krzysztof Bosak competed in the presidential election, his votes in the second circular spread almost equally between Rafał Trzaskowski and Andrzej Duda. This year, as they say in the Conflict, it's completely impossible.

– I believe that present is simply a completely different electorate than in 2020. We've had a number of choices since then. any voters left, others came. Our electorate has changed. Today, it is mostly more right-wing and at the same time disappointed by the governments of the Law and Justice, which is why it is voting for the Confederate looking for an alternate – says the European Parliament of the Confederation.

Dobromir Sośnierz evaluates: – At the time the situation was different due to the fact that the power was PiS. To any voters, he spoke the argument to vote for Trzaskowski only so as not to give full power to the PiS. besides then, the sympathy for Trzaskovsky was not natural in the Confederate electorate.

Mostly – as he claims – thanks to the March of Independence.

– all year, Trzaskowski tries to ban the March of independency and all year it fails. There's a problem with his credibility. We remember erstwhile he banned the march, and then during the 2020 election run he said he would gladly go there. That's what made him uncomfortable. Of course, it is much harder for individual like that to scope the Confederate voters now,” says Dobromir Sosnierz.

And Nawrock?


– After all, he is not yet wet and uncontrollable by any political decisions, due to the fact that he was not in politics and practically hasn't made them yet. erstwhile they make him translate from various decisions made by the Law and Justices, he tries to reflect that it is not actual that he does not agree with everything. And so it is simply a small easier for him – he thinks.

He besides thinks that the affair of the studio doesn't matter. What effect will this case have on my life? I'm not personally guided by specified private matters. Of course, it doesn't look good, especially from the communication side. But it is surely not more crucial than that someone, for example, will declare that they will veto tax-raising laws," he says.

How can Trzaskowski and Nawrocki get to the Confederate voters?


How can Nawrocki effort to go to the Confederacy?


– I was amazed that he did not do it during I circular of elections, due to the fact that at that time he could more distance himself from the regulation of the Law and Justice, e.g. in economical matters or Covid. On the another hand, he was a strong advocate of the governments of the Law and Justice. possibly this was the maneuver that at that phase they were playing with their staff for a hard-core PiS electorate, and now they will focus on the young electorate? I don't know that," says Tomasz Buczek.

His relation with the Law and Justice is this:


Charles Nawrocki of the organization card of the PiS is not here. He can defend himself on this side. It was clearly from Jarosław Kaczyński's recommendation, that cannot be lied to. But the question is, is he an independent person? In my opinion, he will be a more independent individual than Andrzej Duda, who already blocked Jarosław Kaczyński's policy respective times.

How can Rafał Trzaskowski fight for Confederate voters?


– I have no idea. To be honest, this is simply a hard task, and I wouldn't want to be in the function of his staff. Now he'll gotta execute very equilibristic figures to let go of his eye to our constituents. Will that be credible? And will it be credible and unrepulsive to his hard electorate? I don't know that – says Tomasz Buczek.

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