Smartphone, electrosmog and brain cancer. What does ICNIRP say and what does the court conviction and investigation say?

Zbigniew Gelzok and I are talking about a court judgement that involves utilizing a telephone with cancer, investigation on electrosmog and investigation on scientists connected to telecommunications corporations.

(Interview is an updated version of the podcast Are you aware? p. Electrosmog – court judgment, brain cancer and mobile phone, which was published on 21 February 2023.)

Rafał Górski: “I may have answered the telephone 150 times a day! I heard that glioma is more and more common in people before the age of 40," Tomasz Kalita said before he died in an interview with the diary “Fakt”. associate of the Sejm and spokesperson for the SLD died of brain cancer on January 16, 2017. This is the Polish context of our conversation.

There is besides an Italian context: Roberto Romeo, an worker of a telecommunications company, sued for compensation of the State Insurance Institution from Accidents at Work and Occupational Diseases in Italy (INAIL), which is equivalent to the Polish Social Insurance Institution. The suit active suffering from brain cancer as a consequence of the usage of a mobile telephone during work. INAIL appealed to the Court of Appeal, which dismissed the appeal. The court’s judgement states: “... in the light of the results of fresh animal studies carried out by NTP (American National Toxicology Programme) and the Ramazzini Institute (...) can be assumed that in a circumstantial case, with a advanced logical probability criterion, an etiological relation between long-term and eye-catching professional vulnerability to radio frequencies emitted by mobile phones and a illness reported by the court experts to INAIL (the kidney of the eighth right cranial nerve) may be accepted.’

Why should the case of Roberto Romeo's triumph be of interest to Poles and Poles? Who was the victim?

Zbigniew Gelzok: He was a mobile telephone user, utilized it for more than 10 years. He developed cancer around the head. Why should this interest Poles? due to the fact that if individual uses the telephone long-term and there has been a glioma or another cancer of the head, he has the right to search compensation besides in the Polish court or before the prosecutor. This is worth making public, due to the fact that telecommunications companies do not say that specified a threat exists. The Italian conviction is interesting due to the fact that it answers many questions. What's in the conviction is consistent with what the prof. confirms. Alicja Bortkiewicz from the Institute of Occupational medicine in Łódź based on meta-analysis.

I take it this case took a long time?

That's the second conviction that happened in Italy. This is taking so long due to the fact that it is known that there is simply a problem with experts. A neurologist and an oncologist were found there, who based on investigation and their cognition found that the probability of developing the illness existed.

If another factors cannot be explicitly excluded, specified a harmful agent as exposure, including professional, should be accepted on radio frequencies. This applies to practically everyone today.

Are they experts who are appointed by the court as experts?

Yes, exactly. They are on the list of experts, i.e. they are specialists in the field of medicine, in this case it was neurology and oncology. This is in line with the judgement of the Court of Appeal in Warsaw, that only experts in a peculiar field can comment on the causal link in specified a context.

So the equivalent of Polish ZUS in Italy refused to admit that the suspect had developed brain cancer utilizing his phone?

That's right. In the case of occupational illness proceedings, circumstantial experts are appointed who are acquainted with the circumstantial specialisation. Not a given body or a circumstantial opinion that the victim has is top priority.

First of all, it is the experts who must find that this can be read in a way that is understandable to everyone. It's like the case that's going on with me right now.

What is your case?

For 5 years I worked as a installer on the construction of mobile telephone base stations, later on the operating stations, and then on radio and tv receivers. In 2002, I felt very bad. 4 of my cervical vertebrae have fallen. Turns out my spine was badly damaged. There were besides changes in the tense strategy – memory, consciousness disorders. I had insomnia, severe headaches. It has besides been detected that 90% of sperm in my body is dead, which is classified as infertility.

I was 33, and I felt like a wreck.

I had to take sedatives.

What's going on now?

I'm presently in retirement, and I'm fighting a court-martial for designation of occupational illness. I have favorable sentences. The Court of First Instance asked whether the deterioration of wellness occurred during work and, if so, erstwhile it happened and whether another factors could be excluded. He asked the experts directly: did the wellness deterioration happen during work? Unfortunately, there are no experts in Poland like Italy who would show the court the connection of my illness with electromagnetic radiation.

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What are the 3 most crucial facts arising from the judgement of the Italian court?

The first is that in Polish courts or prosecutors, the experts should talk to a peculiar speciality, namely in this case neurologist and oncologist.

Second thing: there is simply a advanced probability of a head tumor, e.g. proceeding nerve neurosis caused by the usage of a mobile phone, erstwhile excluding another factors.

The 3rd fact is the anticipation of redress, besides in Poland.

If a individual has been harmed, he or she may mention both to the prosecution and to a civilian action against a telecommunications corporation, which should inform the citizen that specified a causal link exists. We besides learn from this judgement that the chance to win specified a case is great.

People do not believe that due to the fact that – as we mentioned – there are practically no experts here. In Poland, the link between cancer and telephone usage was excluded. The version is accepted that the individual who is sick is to prove the origin of the disease, not the 1 who introduces the technology, in this case wireless telephone.

"In April 2019, the Advisory Group of the global Agency for investigation on Cancer (IARC) of 29 researchers from 19 countries listed radio frequencies as 1 of the factors for which IARC's re-evaluation of carcinogenicity in the period 2020-2024 is considered a priority" is part of the Italian court's judgment. During his reading, I besides encountered respective another technological studies that they referred to.

The National Toxicology Programme (NTP) is listed, funded by the US government, confirming the carcinogenic possible of mobile phones. Moreover, the court relied on the investigation of the Ramazzini Institute.

Research results indicate an increase in the incidence of cancer and heart and thyroid diseases in animals exposed to regular electromagnetic radiation emissions.

It's about levels the same as those people get present from mobile phones and another wireless broadcasting devices kept close to the body.

The Polish Ministry of wellness and the Chancellery of the Prime Minister inactive do not announcement these studies. They don't mention to them at all and pretend they don't exist. What is unfavourable to telecommunications companies is simply overlooked.

There was a time erstwhile Prof. Marek Made up from the Institute of Occupational Medicine had doubts as to whether PEM (electromagnetic field) could origin cancer. Instead, he stated that he could aid her develop. He must have meant non-thermic effects, which are constantly overlooked. [In Polish labour environment regulations they are described, specifically in Decision of the Minister of National Defence of 2017, however, only with respect to the military, having constant contact with the advanced impact of the PEM. In contrast, Regulation of the Minister of wellness of 19 December 2019, which concerns acceptable levels of this radiation in areas of residence, for unknown reasons the non-thermic effects are no longer mentioned, ed.]

What are the “non-thermic effects”?

These are long-term biological effects, which are evident if we are subjected to the influence of a given origin for a long time.

For example, five-minute vulnerability to sunlight does not origin immediate consequences. If we are exposed to the sun for a very long time, the consequences will be unambiguous, e.g. sunstroke or skin cancer. likewise with cigarettes and alcohol, erstwhile the hazard of adverse effects increases with each year. The same is actual erstwhile we spend our full life surrounded by devices that make electromagnetic radiation, specified as a mobile telephone or a router. Prof. Alicja Bortkiewicz spoke about this. The link between short-term usage of the telephone and the occurrence of negative wellness effects cannot be confirmed, but if this period is longer, meta-analysis confirms this correlation.

I besides did not feel the impact of PEM at work immediately, the effects only occurred after time. We can translate this into a pandemic present – no 1 wonders why adults and children have a weakened immune system. It is not taken into account that there is simply a flu-like origin or another origin – besides the 1 that is PEM. As Prof. Lennart Hardell said – it is about unexplored effects. It has been attempted to regulation out that PEM does not act on the immune system. The Jagiellonian University says that it is not the main origin negatively affecting immunity, but besides does not reject it.

"(...) in technological literature there is an expanding number of works that confirm the non-thermic effects of PEM on the human body and another surviving organisms" – we can read in Opinion of the Polish Society for Radio investigation Maria Skłodowska-Curie of December 17, 2019.

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"In fact, the ICNIRP (International Commission from Non-Ionizing Radiation – global Commission for Non-Ionising Radiation Protection) is simply a private organisation whose radio frequency guidelines are of large economical and strategical importance for the telecommunications industry, with which respective ICNIRP members besides have connections through consultation relationships", says the court ruling. What do you say?

For the Italian court, this German committee (operating in the form of an association) is not credible due to the fact that it is linked to business. Although scientists say that they work for free in the Commission, but outside of it they are connected to business, so that means that they are not independent. Secondly, something that the Italian court has not noticed, the organization does not conduct any own research.

If we look at their budget, we'll see that they're doing nothing.

The only thing they do is measure the tests that suit them, in terms of thermal effect and nothing else.

The vice president of this organization erstwhile said that there was no crucial increase in cancer in the world. Although WHO is informing that by 2025 these indicators will be frightening. Polish statistic besides confirm that the number of cancer diseases increases with each year.

It is absurd that ICNIRP is simply a determinant for our Ministry of Health. Deputy Minister of wellness Waldemar Kraska wrote to Senators that this organization confirms that PEM is healthy for aged people and children, so I asked a question on the basis of this letter to supply me with these studies. The Ministry of wellness wrote back that he doesn't know them. He doesn't know them due to the fact that they don't exist. You can't say someone's a specialist if they're not. This is simply a self-proclaimed global commission, and in fact – an average German association.

As it turns out, there does not should be any investigation for the Minister of wellness in Poland, as long as “scientists” and “doctors” speak. Clearly, they do not really know what they are writing about. They do not even want to debate with another scientists who in turn are not willing to do so due to the fact that they see the unreliableness of the investigation judged by ICNIRP. They pointed to it, for example. Dr Dariusz Leszczyński is Prof. Hardell.

What does the conviction of the Italian court mean for Poles and Poles? And for our courts?

For Polish courts it means what we already know. In specified cases, only experts in circumstantial fields, specified as neurologist and oncologist, can speak. This shows that all claims made by the Ministry of wellness regarding this relation of vulnerability to electromagnetic radiation and the occurrence of cancers are incorrect due to the fact that specified a relation has already been confirmed. This is besides recognised by prof. Alicja Bortkiewicz and metaanalysis. However, everyone in Warsaw pretends, including the Chancellery of the Prime Minister that the problem does not exist. Let's imagine what happens if tragedy occurs, and there are no circumstantial safeguards. What then?

You keep selling phones, you advertise access to calls without restrictions, you don't inform people about threats.

And kids talk on the telephone a lot. People are convinced that it is safe for themselves and their families, whether they have it in their hands or at their heads. 1 can say that this Italian conviction raises disputes due to the fact that we presently have different conflicts. However, the judgement of the Italian court is final and independent. I believe that in any way it will besides influence the position of Polish courts.

I would like to ask the Minister of wellness on the basis of which factors exclude the introduction of warnings concerning the usage of a mobile telephone and direct attention to 1 more thing, namely the impact of mobile phones on 3 parts of the body: eyes, thyroid glands and cervical spine, not to mention the fourth, or gonads. We will see what the Ministry will say, due to the fact that the rule of prevention should be maintained now. The things we talk about present should be publicised.

There are research of German professors who examined the essences of the grey brain of children and young telephone addicts. It turns out that the physical changes in their brains are identical to those seen in addicts or alcoholics. Here's the full problem – I think this conviction will be understood by people who are ready to full accept its content, along with consequences. If individual does not want to realize him, he will have a problem erstwhile this problem touches him. Information shall be provided. Everyone will read it if they want to. However, it must always be remembered that this must be a doctor’s message to a circumstantial field of medicine.

What should we, as citizens, request from politicians today, request from journalists and request from ourselves about the subject we are talking about?

We should start with each another first. Let's usage headphones for the phone, effort to usage fibre optics. If we gotta usage wi-fi, let's turn them off at night. But let's besides effort not to usage a mobile telephone while driving. Whether we have handsfree sets or wire headphones.

It turns out that 1⁄4 accidents, besides in Poland, are caused by a telephone call.

This was confirmed in the United States a fewer years ago. During this conversation, we act like a drunk. So first of all, we gotta do something about ourselves.

Journalists run distant from the subject, and we citizens have a large problem knowing any things. On the 1 hand, people conflict with base stations to not have them close their place of residence, and on the another hand, routers located in their apartments are active walking them all the time. After what happened to me at work, I couldn't function like this.

Now there are quite a few people who saw something happening. There are full families without effective immune systems. Why is the Ministry of wellness silent about this? Why does no 1 say that the flu virus, or anything (because there are different theories), takes control of the immune strategy and destroys it?

We must request reliable information from politicians and journalists. erstwhile the Ministry of wellness has increased 100 times the PEM radiation standards from 7V/m to 61V/m, let us request that they give the opinions of circumstantial specialists. Let's ask who made that assessment. On this Italian case, let us ask: who can regulation out that PEM does not affect cancer or gonads?

Can politicians be counted on today? This subject will shortly flow to the wider waters. You can't keep it quiet, due to the fact that times are gonna get worse. Eventually, individual will wonder what is going on, why children get sick all the time. There utilized to be nothing going on today.

I know cases erstwhile parents complain that full families have mediocre immunity, and for example, a father who works outside the home does not feel any discomfort.

Today the bigger threat than the telephone and base stations are the Wi-Fi routers.

I asked the Ministry to ask them about their safety, unfortunately they were incapable to give me an answer due to the fact that they have no investigation available on this subject.

Thank you for talking to me.