Nawrocks furniture the firm. In the background "political Ku Klux Clan"

- Charles Nawrocki is not a politician as such, but he becomes one. The question is how much he will be an independent president and how much he will be a pen by Jarosław Kaczyński. He doesn't seem to be a pawn, he won't be a puppet. For character reasons, though. This is not the kind - Jacek Nizinkiewicz from "Rzeczpospolita" said in TOK FM.