Interview for Radio Swoboda with Brig-Gen. Sergei Gołubcov, head of aviation in the command of the ZSU Air Force (the Armed Forces of Ukraine) is so interesting that it shows the way the Ukrainians went and intend to pass to be able to gain an advantage in the air over the Russians. This is simply a hard process due to the fact that the change of situation provides and will supply them with weapons they did not usage before 24 February 2022. This creates tremendous logistical-technical-organisational difficulties, but so far the Ukrainians are coping with it and not giving up on the russian aircraft they inactive have.