- I'm sorry. I think that last night Donald Tusk gave the triumph to Charles Nawrock with an interview with Bogdan Rymanowski. It was a disgrace. It was to show the full mechanics of production of these counterfeits, this cesspool, this mud which is poured down on Karol Nawrocki in the hope that it will discourage the voters and choose the 1 that we feel it all, most Poles do not want, or Rafał Trzaskowski, - said the editor-in-chief of the station Jacek Karnowski.