If he did, he should confess. And honorably, before all of Poland, renounce immunity. Not that he's inactive running. It's just a coward and that's all – an old female from confederate Poland doesn't dress in words. Her Housewives Club benefited from the Justice Fund, thanks to which they have fresh appliances.
We regret it. At that minute we were unaware of where the money came from – he says.
Do you regret it?
- Yeah. It's truly hard. We absolutely didn't know it was a fund for people who needed help. Only erstwhile the storm broke out in Poland did we realize how much we got it from. Today, we would never decide for specified a thing – he answers.
He doesn't leave a dry thread on Ziobrze Binder.
– I'm following what's going on, and I'm very disappointed. He's our leader. Like a father in a family. What did he do? I am looking at Ziobra present and I am ashamed for him that specified a man has disgraced Poland. That's my opinion, he says.
However, among the beneficiaries of grants from the Justice Fund, we find that there is simply a large deal of division. It is frequently heard that "politics do not care at all", but the defenders of the erstwhile chief of the ministry of justice are not missing. We hear it's the best money spent. And that what we see present is revenge on the Herb.
– If he's hiding somewhere, I think he should wait there. They haven't proved anything to him yet. I didn't anticipate that. But seemingly you gotta anticipate everything – the president of 1 of the Volunteer Fire Departments gets excited.
He's targeting the DA's office. In the agrarian Housewives they react
Let's remind you, Zbigniew Ziobro is simply a fishy in 26 crimes. According to investigators, he was to claim over PLN 150 million from the Justice Fund, and besides to certify the untruth in documents. He was besides expected to "found and direct an organized crime group".
In the last fewer days, his case has caught on. On 31 October, the Chancellery of the Sejm announced that Marshal Simon Holovnia had given him 3 days to relinquish his immunity. The deadline was November 3.
Ziobro, asked by Polsat News, replied that he would not renounce anything. On X, he later announced that he was filing a announcement to the D.A. for Waldemar Żurek's Minister of Justice.
Where is he today? All we know is that he was in Hungary last week.
– Let him sit there if he's okay. It was known that they were moving away, due to the fact that if everyone's moving distant where they can live, then so is he. I'm not surprised. But as Morawiecki himself called out from the softy, let him not act like a softymon and face – he responds to a associate of the Housewives wheel from central Poland.
There's laughter on the phone. However, he adds that it is not funny.
– This is despair. But what are we gonna do? That's what prosecutors and law enforcement are for. If that's how we hear it, if it failed, people are badly hurt. Especially young people who could usage this fund after leaving prison or juvie," he says.
Her grant wheel from the Justice Fund didn't get it. I heard you had to have connections. I didn't really know it was that kind of fund. I don't think all the wheels were aware of how much money came from. But we were relieved not to be there. Now I thank God that we missed these grants – he says.
Of course, the ellipse of agrarian Housewives is not the only entity to be supported by the Justice Fund. But they, too, about the Volunteer Fire Department, have provoked the top emotions in the nation.
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Let's keep it short.
That's how the Housewives utilized the Justice Fund
Circles of agrarian Housewives from all over the country were on a nationwide candlestick in 2023. Then Poland found out that for money from the Justice Fund there are purchased popcorn machines, grills, and even Thermomix kitchen equipment.
Housewives and communes boasted about it on social media. They wrote about tents folded outdoor, food heaters, mixers, waffle rooms. The pictures showed coffee machines, two-story cakes and sweets, fries, toasters...
Nobody needs to be reminded of that.
To this day, there are plenty of wheels that are grateful. Their point of view is completely different.
A associate of the arms wheels of Ziebra: It's the best money spent from the Justice Fund.
– In my opinion, this is the best money spent from the Justice Fund – says the head of the wheel from Warsaw. As he says, it's a tiny village, a small neglected. There are no violent and criminal actions, let alone psychologists.
– It wasn't the money for the pans. Don't treat it that way. It was money for which various meetings and talks about household or neighbourly force could be arranged, e.g. with police, with guards, with psychologists. There were besides meetings about road and traffic behaviour. And the fact that we got the appliances and thanks to it we could prepare something, only served to attract residents to the gathering – explains the woman.
As he adds, there was a full room: – I know that in another circles there were besides specified meetings. On the villages truly do not scope beautiful actions from NGO–s, or another organizations. And if individual bought a frying pan with that money, it serves people.
In the Volunteer Fire Service, they besides defend grants from the Fund and Ziobra. In 2019, battery flashlights, barebacks, wood saws, helmets and fire boots, or portable radios came in.
– This is most likely any kind of political revenge. We just got a grant for road rescue equipment. He saves people from accidents. The money for the equipment comes from a fund that was expected to aid victims of accidents and another crimes, and so it is. I think it's money well spent. In good religion – the president of the OS from northern Poland reacts.
Another, from the east: – I saw the legitimacy of directing this fund to the fire department. I do not realize why this is being discussed. The fire department benefited a lot.
But what's interesting is that quite a few people don't know what's going on. Not with the Justice Fund, not with Ziobra. Sometimes it's hard to believe.
"Ziobro? I don't know, we don't talk about it. There is no subject at all"
A storm is passing through Poland. Ziobro and everything about him is 1 of the loudest topics in the country. all day brings fresh information.
For example, on Tuesday 4 November, the erstwhile Minister of Justice made another move. As he reported, he made a study of a suspected crime committed by the Minister of Justice Waldemar Żurek and prosecutor Piotr Wozniak.
There was besides a SW investigation survey for "Rzeczpospolita", which shows that 55.3 percent of Poles think that they should be arrested, 18.2% are against it.
Meanwhile, in conversations with pubs and OS most frequently collide with surprise. Or large aversion to politics in general:
– We are so far from politics that I do not really know if the grants were from the Justice Fund. I've never heard of it.
- Ziobro? I don't know, we don't talk about it. There's no point at all. I don't know what it is.
I'm not following this very well. I don't know what this Ziobro has done to the another side and why they're looking for a gap all over. I think they're wars and revenge.
The president of OS from east Poland even cuts off the conversation: – I am not curious in politics. I don't know what's going on. I don't care at all.
