"Russians and now they're concentrating a large part of their troops there and they're downloading reinforcements while I'm talking to you. For them, Bachmut is crucial for moving further into Ukraine's territory, which is why they fight so hard for him. But the Armed Forces of Ukraine put up powerful resistance, and on the 1 hand, most of the Bachmut now controls the Russians. On the another hand, they cannot decision further, due to the fact that around the city, on the flanks, dominant positions are occupied by Ukrainian Armed Forces," says Deputy Chief of Defence of Ukraine Hanna Maliar in a peculiar interview with Defence24. Michał Bruszewski talks.